As a teenager I did a fair bit of wargaming, although it was all of the Games Workshop variety, aside from one afternoon playing The War Machine mass combat rules from the D&D Rules Cyclopedia. I have a poor head for tactics, one that borders on the comedic -- some of my opponents might say moronic -- so I was never much good at these games; I won my first game of Warhammer Fantasy Battle with a bold undead cavalry charge and thrashed a GW staff member at a display game of the then-new Epic 40,000, but aside from a long unbeaten run at Warhammer 40,000 -- because Genestealers were very, very broken in the first two editions -- that was the extent of my success as a general. Even so I still had great fun playing, before rising costs and rules changes -- in the case of 40K a combination of both, with the increase in the basic army size in the third edition -- pushed me out of the hobby.
Also, if I'm honest, I'm rubbish at the painting. I have a smidegeon of artistic talent, but I can't transfer that to the painting of figures to save my life. My neon pink Genestealer Cult is an embarrassment to this day.
So that's why I don't play these games any more, despite there being a sizeable community of tabletop wargamers here in Brighton. I'd love to play, but I can't afford an army and even if I could, it would look like a four-year-old painted it. A blind four-year-old. With no hands.
Even so, Stuart's post woke my long-dormant love of wargames, and so I did some poking around. Even after being out of the hobby for over a decade, I knew enough to know that Warmachine is a popular alternative to the Nottingham hegemony, and I've seen some of the models in use in our various role-playing game campaigns, so I know that they're well designed bits of kit. The game is based around small warbands -- just like the Warhammers back in the day -- which might make the painting a bit less painful for me, and the game's emphasis on the mechanised warjacks with infantry as support reminded me of the Workshop's Space Marine, my favourite of all their wargames, despite being no more successful at it than anything else.
Then I saw the cost of the models, comparable to GW's pricing but for even less stuff, and that killed my interest in Warmachine. Maybe if I win the lottery. In the meantime, the world is spared my neon pink Cygnar warjacks.
So that was that, but then for some reason the Dreaded and Unmentionable D&D4 popped into my head, perhaps because it's often criticised as a wargame masquerading as an rpg. I don't think that's entirely fair, as it's more that the strong emphasis on the combat system makes it very easy to ignore everything else, but it did get me wondering about what could happen if one embraced that criticism and played D&D4 as a wargame.
The first step would be to create an interesting battlefield, with lots of environmental features to add some tactical flexibility to the game. Pits, areas of difficult terrain, things to climb on, and so on, nothing too unfamiliar to the average wargamer. After that's done, there seem to be two options:
- Classic Mode in which one -- or more -- player creates a party of heroes and pits them against a monstrous force. This would be D&D4 as written, more or less, only there'd be no plot or role-playing, as the emphasis would be on the battle, which has the handy side-effect of heading off the problem of the fight taking up the entire session, as so often used to happen.
- Total War in which the players decide on an XP budget as described in the DMG, then buy monsters -- which need not be actual bug-eyed beasties -- and set them against each other. This version would feel much more like a traditional wargame.
I'm not sure how easy it would be to get an army of these printable miniatures, but I've thought of doing this for wargaming or D&D
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There are some very good sets of paper miniatures out there, but the problem with them is that a lot of opponents just won't play against them, because they feel as if they're cheapening the hobby. I don't necessarily agree, but then I've not spent vast amounts of time and money on an army only to be faced by something printed and cut out in an hour.
ReplyDeleteIt's an interesting region of hobby space, the point at which wargaming and roleplaying meet, and how much they share. I've been doing a lot of thinking about it recently and your thoughts are a good addition to the mix.
ReplyDeleteAs for using paper, it seems the business models of the major firms require miniatures get sold above all, and this must impact on player attitude, in the form of 'WYSIWIG' and 'no counts as'. It may be that the attitude is picked up through suggestion or it may come from the realisation that a favourite firm needs model sales to survive.
For what it's worth, I'd let you play paper, and I'm sure plenty of others would too.
Indeed. I perfectly understand, for example, GW's decision in the third edition of 40K to make troops cheaper in terms of points, but keep the base army size the same. That effectively makes players go out and by their miniatures again, and the WYSIWIG rule added to that by invalidating a number of old models.
ReplyDeleteThat's good business, and keeps things turning over, but it pushed me out of the game, although in fairness, if I was using an army that was supported in third edition, I may have tried harder to stick with it.
I am now starting to wonder if something like Mordheim might be a better fit for me.
I would also suggest you take a look at Two Hour Wargames, especially their fantasy and and sci rules sets - Warrior Heroes and 5150. I've heard of people with 40k armies converting over to 5150. Not played them yet, but I have their WW2 and colonial rules sets.
ReplyDeleteMordheim looks like great fun - the original Necromunda definitely was, and it seems the two share a lot. A critical mass of players would be important though, especially for campaigns - the more, the merrier. Then again, persuading others to join in has to be easier for the relatively low investment of money and time.
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